Comments on: Thoughts on questions every high school student should be able to answer http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/ entertaining hundreds of millions of eyeball atoms every day Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:06:22 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mark Dominus http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-705 Mark Dominus Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:28:42 +0000 http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/#comment-705 I think that the very fine distinction you have drawn here between "choose" and "select" is not supported by standard or common usage. For example, the OED defines "choose" as: To take by preference out of all that are available; to select. and "select" as: To choose or pick out in preference to another or others. I think that the very fine distinction you have drawn here between “choose” and “select” is not supported by standard or common usage. For example, the OED defines “choose” as:

To take by preference out of all that are available; to select.

and “select” as:

To choose or pick out in preference to another or others.

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By: adam http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-704 adam Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:47:52 +0000 http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/#comment-704 But "choose" and "select" aren't identical terms. At least according to the nuances of the term as I know it, "choose" definitely implies thought, where "select" may be something that just happens. It's a minor point amidst all of the other failings of the piece, but I think it casts some more light on the distinction you made - some of those questions are merely posing as science, and that's a looming threat to actual science. Choosing terms in that debate is important. But “choose” and “select” aren’t identical terms. At least according to the nuances of the term as I know it, “choose” definitely implies thought, where “select” may be something that just happens.

It’s a minor point amidst all of the other failings of the piece, but I think it casts some more light on the distinction you made – some of those questions are merely posing as science, and that’s a looming threat to actual science. Choosing terms in that debate is important.

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By: Mark Dominus http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-703 Mark Dominus Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:22:50 +0000 http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/04/25/thoughts-on-questions-every-high-school-student-should-be-able-to-answer/#comment-703 Thanks for your kind words. Your remark about how "evolution doesn't actually 'choose' anything" seems to refer to the sentence "Darwin's theory of species origination says that natural selection chooses organisms that..." from the original article. But I don't think your objection makes sense. You are objecting specifically to the word "chooses", saying that natural selection doesn't "choose" anything. If this is a substantive complaint, then it shouldn't evaporate when we replace "choose" with a synonym. Hmm, where's my thesaurus? How about "select"? Adam Fields says that "natural selection doesn't actually select anything." Well, okay. But if it's true, whose fault is it? Maybe I've missed your point. What's your objection again? Thanks for your kind words. Your remark about how “evolution doesn’t actually ‘choose’ anything” seems to refer to the sentence
“Darwin’s theory of species origination says that natural selection chooses organisms that…” from the original article.

But I don’t think your objection makes sense. You are objecting specifically to the word “chooses”, saying that natural selection doesn’t “choose” anything. If this is a substantive complaint, then it shouldn’t evaporate when we replace “choose” with a synonym. Hmm, where’s my thesaurus? How about “select”? Adam Fields says that “natural selection doesn’t actually select anything.”

Well, okay. But if it’s true, whose fault is it?

Maybe I’ve missed your point. What’s your objection again?

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